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Hunt gone bad [message #46137] Sat, 08 October 2011 10:55 Go to next message
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Well I took my son out to a property we hunt in Johnstown ready for him to take a deer for the season. We saw 2 nice bucks and 4 does just leaving our house so we were excited for a great morning hunt. Get to the spot and what do we find? The car surrounded by dogs barking and jumping up on the vehicle. Couldn't even get out of the car to begin the hunt and didn't have a side arm to give them a learning lesson. Wasn't willig to risk son's welfare just to get out and hunt so we called it a day and went back home!

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The Birdman
Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46147 is a reply to message #46137] Sat, 08 October 2011 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that would be the crapper.

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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46340 is a reply to message #46147] Mon, 17 October 2011 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a similar experience last year. I hunt property in Pike County and when I got down there last year there was a red female dog running loose. I asked the neighbors and nobody would fess up to owning the dog. She was in good health and had been holing up in our old tobacco barn. I warned the neighbor that if she showed up in the woods while I was hunting it might go bad for her and he assured me that he would make sure she was tied up for opening day.

Opening day I hiked into the woods before sunrise and got all set up at my favorite tree. I was just getting settled in when I heard a noise. I looked in the direction of the sound and there was that damn red dog! She saw me but didn't recognize me and ran off. She must have circled down wind and once she got a whiff of me she came running right up to me. I wanted to shoot her but I could not bring myself to shoot an obviously tame dog.

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I waited, hoping she would get tired of hanging around with me but she obviously had nowhere else to be. Opening day of deer guns season was a bust. I did not see a single deer.

Tuesday it rained all day and the entire time I was on stand, that red dog was right at my feet. Sitting in the rain all day Tuesday did a number on my back so I went home for a couple days to recuperate.

When I went back to the farm on Saturday I took a long rope with me and tied the red dog to my trailer. A couple of hours later and I had a six point on the ground. So the story had a happy ending after all.

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I went back to the farm in January to do some late season rabbit hunting and the red dog was still there. But this time she looked bigger. That's right, she was pregnant. Now I am afraid that when I get back to the farm on the weekend before opening day that the whole place will be overrun with dogs.

What would you guys and gals do in a similar situation?

Carl
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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46341 is a reply to message #46340] Mon, 17 October 2011 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1ST of all its against the law to shoot a dog in Ohio----

2nd I always like to hunt when rabbit hunter where in field they keep the deer moving

3rd lord help the person thats shoots one of my dogs


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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46342 is a reply to message #46341] Mon, 17 October 2011 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is against the law to shoot an unlicensed stray dog that is on my property? Question If I am raising chickens and your dog is running loose and killng my birds I don't have any recourse but to call animal control? I find this hard to believe and I would have to see it in writing from an official source to believe it.

I am sure you are not irresponsible enough to let your dogs run wild on another persons property.

I am sure you are not irresponsible enough to let your dogs go unlicensed.

Unfortunately, where I hunt people do not have the same respect for the law or other person's property.

I have contacted animal control about the dog but nothing has been done.

Carl

P.S. this is not a new problem. just read some of the postings at this site.

http://www.dogplay.com/Articles/MyArticles/freedogs.html
Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46343 is a reply to message #46342] Mon, 17 October 2011 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes, you can shoot a dog thats killing your birds or livestock. but as you said, that is not the circumstance, and the dog you mentioned is not killing your livestock.

i agree with oleman, unless the dog is attacking you, your livestock or your dog, only then will i take corrective action that involves disposing of the animal.

I also agree with oleman, god help the man that shoots one of my dogs.



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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46345 is a reply to message #46342] Mon, 17 October 2011 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok

Just talked to Ohio DNR--

A hunter does not have the right to shoot a dog---The right thing to do would be to call the local dog warden-----As I said HUNTER


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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46346 is a reply to message #46343] Mon, 17 October 2011 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ohio Revised Code:

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/955

Quote:
955.28 Dog may be killed for certain acts - owner liable for damages.
(A) Subject to divisions (A)(2) and (3) of section 955.261 of the Revised Code, a dog that is chasing or approaching in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, that attempts to bite or otherwise endanger, or that kills or injures a person or a dog that chases, threatens, harasses, injures, or kills livestock, poultry, other domestic animal, or other animal, that is the property of another person, except a cat or another dog, can be killed at the time of that chasing, threatening, harassment, approaching, attempt, killing, or injury. If, in attempting to kill such a dog, a person wounds it, the person is not liable to prosecution under the penal laws that punish cruelty to animals. Nothing in this section precludes a law enforcement officer from killing a dog that attacks a police dog as defined in section 2921.321 of the Revised Code.

(B) The owner, keeper, or harborer of a dog is liable in damages for any injury, death, or loss to person or property that is caused by the dog, unless the injury, death, or loss was caused to the person or property of an individual who, at the time, was committing or attempting to commit criminal trespass or another criminal offense other than a minor misdemeanor on the property of the owner, keeper, or harborer, or was committing or attempting to commit a criminal offense other than a minor misdemeanor against any person, or was teasing, tormenting, or abusing the dog on the owner’s, keeper’s, or harborer’s property. Additionally, the owner, keeper, or harborer of a dog is liable in damages for any injury, death, or loss to person or property that is caused by the dog if the injury, death, or loss was caused to the person or property of an individual who, at the time of the injury, death, or loss, was on the property of the owner, keeper, or harborer solely for the purpose of engaging in door-to-door sales or other solicitations regardless of whether the individual was in compliance with any requirement to obtain a permit or license to engage in door-to-door sales or other solicitations established by the political subdivision in which the property of the owner, keeper, or harborer is located, provided that the person was not committing a criminal offense other than a minor misdemeanor or was not teasing, tormenting, or abusing the dog.

Effective Date: 07-10-1987; 2008 HB71 09-30-2008



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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46353 is a reply to message #46346] Mon, 17 October 2011 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about a cat that gets into your trash every night?

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Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46355 is a reply to message #46346] Mon, 17 October 2011 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not planning on shooting any dogs anytime soon. My comment in my previuos post was meant to be "tongue in cheek". My post was more to empathize with the original poster as someone who has also had a hunt ruined by some less than responsible pet owners.

Another poster on the list was concerned about buying a piece of land on which to hunt. This is just one problem he may have to deal with as well.

Sorry if I offended anyone. I guess I should hurry up and make a trip to the farm to see if there are any deer left on the place.
Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46359 is a reply to message #46355] Mon, 17 October 2011 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I appreciate the empathy. The dogs in question actually belonged to the land owner who was asleep and I was not going to wake him to put his dog up. In my case, the dogs probably had more right to be there than I did. I know that they are very protective dogs and will attack and was not willing to risk my son's health. I have also hunted where wild dogs came running through the field. I am more inclined to shoot a wild dog, but as LK and Oleman have said, only if my life or my family is threatened including my dogs. I could not bring myself to harm a dog that I know is gentle just because it is in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Regards,

The Birdman
Re: Hunt gone bad [message #46367 is a reply to message #46359] Mon, 17 October 2011 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I started to reply to this. But this is a very bad topic for me to be involved in. Past experience leaves a very bad memory in me about dogs getting shot. So I will let cooler heads respond.

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